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often times i find myself thinking

with the given element table we are able to create within the known materials

is it possible we will ever achieve interstellar travel?

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Probably not, if you mean being able to travel from one end of the galaxy to the other.

I read once it takes like 10,000 years for light to get from one end of the milky way to the other.

And nothing (according to what we know about physics) can travel faster than light. We don't even come close unless we're talking about accelerating atomic particles, and even that takes us to the limits of our current technologies.

The only theoretical way i've heard of is trying to find a way to traverse the distance without acctually traversing it (via a wormwhole or something like it), and there is little evidence that this is possible through any kind of technological advance.

Then there's the star trek thing about warp drive. The way warp drive would work, would be instead of actually travelling at light speed, you would somehow bend the space around a craft such that it pushed it faster than you were actually propolsing it. I dont know if that idea is totally made up or if there is actual theoretical science behind it.

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so my best guess is we would have to encounter some alien tech for that to happen.

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There's the Alcubierre drive ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive ), though it requires exotic matter.. radiation shielding.. a few other minor details too.

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BigWilly! wrote:
There's the Alcubierre drive ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive ), though it requires exotic matter.. radiation shielding.. a few other minor details too.

So that would be the star trek version, but more realistic and explained better than what I did.

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so my best guess is we would have to encounter some alien tech for that to happen.

Maybe.

The other variable here is if we can live long enough for that to happen, or long enough to get smart enough to figure it out on our own.

Meaning hopefully we don't slaughter eachother or melt the planet before then. AND hopefully some natural catastrophe doesn't hit us before then.

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The one encouraging thing is I doubt people in 1800 would have dreamed about computers or atomic power. Maybe in a 100 years there will be an radical paradigm shift that will allow for an explosive advancement in technology.

No way to know though.

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If you had the capability if interstellar travel you would not be allowed to enjoy the benefit and likely would be "erased."

But, with that aside.....

It is said that an object in motion has a tendency to stay in motion.

It is my understanding that a black hole has the ability to discourse light from its intended path.

Being the case, gravity itself should have the ability to propel an object faster than the speed of light (even if that object could not structurally withstand it). The potential exists.

The natural flow of gravity of objects that are independent of each other seems to flow from the outside to the inside.

However -

When an object begins to spin, the flow of gravity changes direction flowing from the inside to the outside.

Centrifugal force is still a potential candidate for generating gravity waves that could be used for propulsion.

Other than the potential for gravity propulsion, traveling to distant locations by means of interdimesional portal technology would be a better method.

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the problem is not destroying the atoms that the space craft is make up from. As a object reaches anywhere near the speed of light the atoms of all heavier elements will get ripped apart due to the quantum forces applying to them. This means only the smallest and lightest particle can ever reach a velocity that would make interstellar travel possible.

You can make a large space ship and launch knowing that it would take generations to get there.... but then as to travel beyond the outermost reaches of the sun you would need to make all the energy you will need to sustain life aboard the ship ..... again it would end up completely impractical.

As for "warp" drive approach ..... yes there is science to it .... but once again the quantum forces generated in that approach would rip apart the atoms and molecules would seem to simply fall apart.

Its like the theory of using a black hole to travel back in time..... yes the theory has been worked out ..... but no atom would survive as it would be ripped to bits.

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We could do it right now. The answer is encoded in the Bible. And maybe a Michelangelo painting or two.

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soco wrote:
We could do it right now. The answer is encoded in the Bible. And maybe a Michelangelo painting or two.

could you provide something a more evident direction with that said?

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The statue of david is actually a spaceship.

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Space folding is a theoretical possibility.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_folding

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Jebus-Zeus wrote:
Space folding is a theoretical possibility.

Yeah, but you need awfully large & dexterous hands.

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BigWilly! wrote:

Jebus-Zeus wrote:
Space folding is a theoretical possibility.

Yeah, but you need awfully large & dexterous hands.

* rim shot *

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