[quote Anonymous]
Why not question everything?
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Good idea. But let's not forget that everything means everything so we should start with this post.
Anonymous wrote:
Why can you go to Walmart but not Kohl's? Why the Dollar store and not a mom and pop shop?
those places sell food. There are still mom and pop shops that sell food that are open. I've been to and have ordered from them. So we questioned, and got the answer. Good on you for asking the question.
Anonymous wrote:
Why can't you have an elective surgery, but you can have an abortion (which is elective)?
Interesting. I don't know. Do you have more information? I mean, off the top of my head, it seems to me like abortions are a bit more...well, time sensitive than other types of "elective surgery." Also not all abortion requires surgery. So we need the question to be more specific before we can answer it.
Anonymous wrote:
Why should you stay inside but yet heat and sunlight kill the virus? Why can't kids (who are not at risk) play on an outdoor playground, where sun kills this virus??
To the first question, this is patently false and also makes no sense and no one who knows what they are talking about is saying this. Trump made this claim during one of his infamous press briefings and afterwards took it back and claimed he was joking. If sunlight killed the virus, the only way it could spread is underground and underwater, because, I don't know if you've noticed this, but sunlight is everywhere on planet earth. Regular outside temperature heat does not kill the virus, or any virus that effects humans. Again, this makes no sense. Viruses have to survive the human body temperature which is typically higher than the ambient temperature except during extremely hot days in summer.
To answer the question about children...the concern was that they would be vectors for the virus and unknowingly spread it to other people. However, recent evidence suggests that children are not completely safe from the virus either. There seems to be COVID related inflammation that can effect some children and be highly dangerous to them.
Anonymous wrote:
Why can a family of four live together in isolation, travel in their car in isolation but can’t go on a boat together in some states?
Good question. Probably some research would answer it, but I'm not feeling motivated enough to do it. I don't even own a boat. I encourage you find out for us.
Anonymous wrote:
Why don't people know that these are "recommendations" not laws (a law goes through due process)?
It depends on which "recommendations" you are talking about, and which state we are talking about. New York is the hardest hit state by the pandemic and it's possible to get fined for not wearing a mask. But, as the governor of new york said today, if 19 million New Yorkers decide not to social distance, there is nothing he can do about it. everyone I know is willingly social distancing because they don't want to hurt their family or friends or neighbors.
Anonymous wrote:
How do people not know that we are a Republic, not a democracy?
Well, the truth is...we are both, at least in terms of how those words are typically defined. A democracy is a genre of political system and "republic" is a type of democracy. In a republic, officials are democratically elected to represent us in a legislative body.
Anonymous wrote:
Why is it okay for government officials to get a haircut, or to fly around the country and meet with hundreds of people but not common citizens?
I have this question too. Though it's more specific for me...who's cutting Trump's hair??? to the second part, government officials ARE social distancing, including the President, Congress, and others.
Anonymous wrote:
Why the fear, when this virus has far less than a 1% death rate?
Well, right now, worldwide, from numbers I just checked online, the death rate is about .6 percent. The last estimate I heard is that approximately 50 percent of Americans will get COVID if left unchecked. Let's do the math....
900,000 people dead with a .6 percent death rate in The United States alone. Tens of thousands already dead. That is why many people are anxious and afraid. But I guess if it's not someone you know, who cares, right?
Anonymous wrote:
Why have coroners questioned death certificates listed as CV-19?
Well, that's an easy one...because it's their job to investigate the cause of someone's death. Not every single death listed as a covid death going to be correct. Many that are being reported as Covid Deaths right now we will probably find out later were not directly or indirectly due to covid...problem is hundreds of people dying everyday. Do you think it's easy to figure these things out on the fly? Probably some who tested postive ended up dying from an unrelated stroke, or some who died of COVID like symptoms but they didn't get to test before they died...these things aren't perfect and no one is claiming they are.
Anonymous wrote:
Why does the CDC encourage medical workers to list Covid-19 on death certificates of everyone dying right now including heart attacks and stroke patients, etc who have never been tested for it?
Source? Also see the previous answer.
Anonymous wrote:
Why have other death rates dropped since the virus?
Probably something worth studying, but an offhand guess would be people staying inside and not getting hurt doing other things. People driving less alone is probably a huge driver of this. Also see the previous-previous answer.
Anonymous wrote:
Why are hospitals paid more for Covid 19 deaths?
This is part of one of the aid packages passed on a bi-partisan basis to off-set financial cost hospitals are incurring during the pandemic.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-paym...
Anonymous wrote:
Where has the flu gone?
It still exists. It's not flu season, by the way, and won't be for a few months.
Anonymous wrote:
Why are some doctors speaking out and then getting silenced?
Which doctors speaking out against what? And source?
Anonymous wrote:
What makes one person essential and another not?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_services
Anonymous wrote:
Doesn't shelter at home mean there is a whole population of people, not staying home so we can? Why are they dividing us?
No. Shelter at home means everyone, even essential workers. If you're an essential worker, that means you go to work and then go back home after work is done. You're not partying and having a good ole time while everyone else is home.
Anonymous wrote:
Why are they telling us to mask up after 2 months of lockdown?
The one thing is not directly related to the other. There are still new cases so people should still be careful.
Anonymous wrote:
Why is the CDC saying kids need to be masked when they return to school or attend church, when they know cloth masks restrict oxygen?
This is mostly false except in specific circumstances. And if the mask causing you to have difficulty breathing, you should remove it. No one is telling people to suffocate.
Anonymous wrote:
What is this oppression and loss of liberty doing to the mental health of our kids...to us?
It's rough and depressing and a tragedy in and of itself. A bigger tragedy is the pile of bodies that keeps getting higher and higher by the minute. Social distancing will end. Loved ones cannot be replaced.
Anonymous wrote:
Why did world leaders meet in China in October 2019? Why are the common people being controlled by the government and no one is controlling the government? Why did Obama give the Wuhan lab $334 million dollars? What does a computer geek (Bill Gates)have to do with a pandemic and why does he want 7 billion corona virus v*ccines?
Why ID 2020, Agenda 21 and 2030? Why did the CDC have a job posting for pandemic relief workers in November 2019?
Why are areas like Chicago and NY gearing up for mass, mandatory vaccination?
This would take more time and effort to parse and research that I have the patience for right now, so you do the homework and get back to us on that one if you would be so kind.
Anonymous wrote:
Why did Dr. Fauci say in 2017 that the Trump administration would be faced with a " SUPRISE PANDEMIC "
Because he is a smart guy and studies this stuff for a living. Scientists have been predicting the next pandemic for years. this is't the first pandemic, it won't be last, and it won't be the worst. Where have you been the past twenty years? There have been major outbreaks of disease every five years or so.
Anonymous wrote:
and then runs the pandemic team?
He doesn't, Mike Pence does.
Anonymous wrote:
Why are they infringing on religious freedoms?
God will forgive you for not going to church for a couple of months.
Anonymous wrote:
Why can 500 people shop at Menards or Home Depot, but we are not allowed to go into our church buildings?
500 people? Wow, which Home Depot do YOU go to? And are home depots really open? Maybe because of construction supplies for infrastructure maintenence? I don't know, do the research and get back to us on it?
Anonymous wrote:
I don't care if you're Republican or Democrat, if you're not asking these questions you should.
All questions are valid when seriously posed and considered and not just rhetorical.
BA1 wrote:
I felt a little bit of aluminium mixed in with your conjecture and supposition.
Nothing in what I said is conjecture or supposition. I have the evidence right there.
- writtenYAY a video with verifiable sources. Let's see what good old verification of the info turned up THIS time. There are two sources used here. A US Patent, and the document from the Rockefeller Foundation, entitled: "Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development."
If you want to see how little research "investigative journalist" Harry Vox did for the interview in the video, google "ebolavirus patent." Guess what the FIRST result is? The patent he references.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20120251502...
Notice the year, 2012. For the virus involved in an outbreak that is dated...2007, in Uganda. Gee whiz they were late on getting their virus patent, weren't they? Seems fishy. Let's see what the patent is actually for, which, wouldn't you know it, it says right in the patent:
"SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION
0009. The present invention is based upon the isolation
and identification of a new human Ebola virus species, EboBun. EboBun was isolated from the patients suffering
from hemorrhagic fever in a recent outbreak in Uganda. The
isolated virus is a member of the Filoviridae family, a family of negative sense RNA viruses. Accordingly, the invention
relates to the isolated EboBun virus that morphologically and
phylogenetically relates to known members filoviridae. "
In plain english: This is a patent for the isolation of the specific naturally occurring species of ebolavirus discovered during the 2007 Ebola outbreak in Uganda.
So BS information that Harry Vox knows 99.9 percent of the people listening to him won't bother to check. Let's check the other source:
https://www.nommeraadio.ee/meedia/pdf/RRS/Rocke...
Contrary to what the youtube host says, the article isn't that long. It's 50 pages more or less and there is a lot of empty space on many of the pages. It's in plain english and easy enough to skim through quickly. You want to know the truth about it? Read it!
It's a document about how different global crises might be addressed by the international community using technology. It describes four different approaches, using four different hypothetical scenarios. Lock Step which is the only scenario that fits into the propoganda that Harry Vox is trying to push, is just one of four. And he skips and glosses over the parts of the scenario that point out that the Lock Step approach has serious downsides....because it contradicts his lies.
Happy to set the record straight, cheers.
- writtenThere are people in this country who make me proud to be an american. Fiona hill is one of them, which aria's comment made me think of. Mitt Romney made me proud when stood up to trump in the impeachment hearing.
There are good people. Honestly i blame the internet. Lies meant to divide and confuse us are spreading like wildfire. Also trump has taken government corruption to a whole new level and it's problem. We'll see how the next few years play out.
- writtenWritetheHeroine wrote:
The most infuriating this about these nonsensical conspiracy-theories is that they don't even make sense. Where's the effort? Just a waste of viable energy.
For whatever reason, it's human nature to hear something on the news, or hear something that anyone who you don't particular mistrust said, and believe it.
The thing I don't get is why people believe randos on the internet over experts who pay their bills with the work they do.
I get mistrusting authority. But that oughta apply to ANY authority, including a dude on the internet who says he knows what he's talking about.
- writtenJetmoo wrote:
Report of Final Results Regarding Brain and Heart Tumors in Sprague-Dawley Rats Exposed From Prenatal Life Unitl Natural Death to Mobile Phone Radiofrequency Field Representative of a 1.8 GHz GSM Base Station Environmental Emission.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29530389Brain Tumours: Rise in Glioblastoma Multiforme Incidence in England 1995-2015 Suggests an Adverse Environmental or Lifestyle Factor.
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/jeph/2018/7910...The 2100 MHz Radiofrequency Radiation of a 3G-Mobile Phone and the DNA Oxidative Damage in Brain.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/p...Prenatal Exposure to Extremely Low Frequency Magnetic Field and Its Impact on Fetal Growth.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30635061The Effects of Radio Frequency Radiation on Mice Fetus Weight, Length and Tissues.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC61...Exposure to Magnetic Field Non-Ionizing Radiation and the Risk of Miscarriage: A prospective Cohort Study.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-16623-8Multiple Assessment Methods of Prenatal Exposure to Radio Frequency Radiation from Telecommunication in the Mothers and Children’s Environmental Health (MOCEH) Study.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27869246The Use of Signal-Transduction and Metabolic Pathways to Predict Human Disease Targets from Electric and Magnetic Fields Using in vitro Data in Human Cell Lines.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC50...A Review on Electromagnetic Fields (EMFs) and the Reproductive System.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC50...Genotoxicity Induced by Foetal and Infant Exposure to Magnetic Fields and Modulation of Ionising Radiation Effects.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.../journal.pone.0142259Oxidative Stress of Brain and Liver is Increased by Wi-Fi (2.45 GHz) Exposure of Rats During Pregnancy and the Development of Newborns.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26520617Neurodegenerative Changes and Apoptosis Induced by Intrauterine and Extrauterine Exposure of Radiofrequency Radiation.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26520616Maternal Exposure to a Continuous 900-MHz Electromagnetic Field Provokes Neuronal Loss and Pathological Changes in Cerebellum of 32-Day-Old Female Rat Offspring.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26391347Different Periods of Intrauterine Exposure to Electromagnetic Field: Influence on Female Rats' Fertility, Prenatal and Postnatal Development.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/p...Use of Mobile Phone During Pregnancy and the Risk of Spontaneous Abortion.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC44...Oxidative Mechanisms of Biological Activity of Low-Intensity Radiofrequency Radiation
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26151230Effects of Prenatal 900 MHz Electromagnetic Field Exposures on the Histology of Rat Kidney.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25084839The Effect of Exposure of Rats During Prenatal Period to Radiation Spreading from Mobile Phones on Renal Development.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25691088Dosimetric Study of Fetal Exposure to Uniform Magnetic Fields at 50 Hz.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25266786Influence of Pregnancy Stage and Fetus Position on the Whole-Body and Local Exposure of the Fetus to RF-EMF.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25098501Autism-Relevant Social Abnormalities in Mice Exposed Perinatally to Extremely Low Frequency Electromagnetic Fields.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24970316Pyramidal Cell Loss in the Cornu Ammonis of 32-day-old Female Rats Following Exposure to a 900 Megahertz Electromagnetic Field During Prenatal Days 13–21.
http://neuroquantology.com/index.php/journal/ar...The Effects of 900 Megahertz Electromagnetic Field Applied in the Prenatal Period on Spinal Cord Morphology and Motor Behavior in Female Rat Pups.
http://www.neuroquantology.com/index.php/journa...Fetal Radiofrequency Radiation Exposure From 800-1900 MHz-Rated Cellular Telephones Affects Neurodevelopment and Behavior in Mice.
https://www.nature.com/articles/srep00312Cranial and Postcranial Skeletal Variations Induced in Mouse Embryos by Mobile Phone Radiation.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19854628Dysbindin Modulates Prefrontal Cortical Glutamatergic Circuits and Working Memory Function in Mice.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19641486Stress Signalling Pathways that Impair Prefrontal Cortex Structure and Function.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC29...Maternal Occupational Exposure to Extremely Low Frequency Magnetic Fields and the Risk of Brain Cancer in the Offspring.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19224378Reproductive and Developmental Effects of EMF in Vertebrate Animal Models.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19272761Prenatal and Postnatal Exposure to Cell Phone Use and Behavioral Problems in Child
Sources are good but they are much better when you actually read them to determine if they are relevant. It's good to question, but when you actually want to say that you know the truth about something, you have to do the work and the research and examine the issue, and not just take a headline and assume you know what something is about.
There are A LOT of links there and I'm definitely not going to look into every single one, but I checked out the first three. It's worth noting, though, that, looking through the titles, none of them specifically mention 5G networks, it looks like they are mostly about cell phone radiation in general.
First link: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29530389
The abstract says that, for the highest amount of radiaton they used during the study, exposing the rats to the radiation for 19 hours a day from utero until they died that rats had a statistically significant increase in tumors. Meaning maybe the increase in incidence was due to the radiaton.
So, it seems to me the study is saying this: If you sat next to a cellphone tower for 19 hours a day from when you were conceived until you died, you might be more likely to develop a tumor.
Second link: https://www.hindawi.com/journals/jeph/2018/7910...
"We aimed to evaluate the effect of 2100MHz radiofrequency radiation emitted by a generator, simulating a 3G-mobile phone on the brain of rats during 10 and 40 days of exposure."
"Our main finding was the increased oxidative DNA damage to brain after 10 days of exposure with the decreased oxidative DNA damage following 40 days of exposure compared to their control groups."
So my question is, what is this study really saying? Is it saying that you get acclimated to radiation after a month and it doesn't harm you as much? It doesn't say to what degree whatever damage it is doing is harmful. So it's definitely not conclusive evidence that the radiation used in the study is dangerous.
Third link: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30635061
"RESULTS: Compared with girls with lower prenatal ELF-MF exposure, girls with higher exposure had a lower birth weight, thinner skinfold of triceps, abdomen and back, and smaller circumference of head, upper arm and abdomen in all three ELF-MF matrices. The differences were statistically significant for birth weight and most other growth measurements (P < 0.05). These measures had no significant difference between higher and lower prenatal ELF-MF exposure in boys except back skinfold thickness."
Again, the results of the study are clearly not conclusive. And there is a contradictory result in that it seemed to effect girls and not boys.
I definitely have an open mind on this stuff. I'm not here trying to say that cell phones are perfectly safe. I think the issue should be studied further, and if, after towers go up, adverse health affects are observed, we should take them down.
Being that the consensus among people who actually study this stuff for a living is that it's safe, I'm not opposed to them going up.
And like soco said earlier, they would be putting the towers up regardless of whether or not there was a coronovirus outbreak, if anything I bet the outbreak would slow things down, but I'm obviously not following the situation closely. Like most people, contrary to the OP's claim, I'm really not that concerned about it.
- writtenAncient Greek looks and sounds really pretty:
ΠΡΟΣ ΚΟΛΟΣΣΑΕΙΣ 1:16
ὅτι ἐν αὐτῷ ἐκτίσθη τὰ πάντα ἐν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς καὶ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς, τὰ ὁρατὰ καὶ τὰ ἀόρατα, εἴτε θρόνοι εἴτε κυριότητες εἴτε ἀρχαὶ εἴτε ἐξουσίαι· τὰ πάντα δι’ αὐτοῦ καὶ εἰς αὐτὸν ἔκτισται·
soco wrote:
Okay. I had already seen that video posted elsewhere. Conspiracy theorists are always seeking new converts to influence. They think the more wild and crazier it is the more people will believe it. I am still surprised at the magazines in stores that still print Bull ****shit after Bull ****shit and people just eat it up like candy.
Jetmoo, I still love you but you need to be careful what you believe. XOXOXO
I'm speaking specifically about the people who made and published/host the video, not anyone in this forum:
What bone has to be missing from your body to say lies like that? Like we all lie but to dedicate your life to lies like that...it's disgusting.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised at this point in my life but it ALWAYS puts a pit in my stomach. I feel bad that I turned into goop at this, COVID bs is clearly getting to me.
- writtenI googled the guy in the video, "dr" Rashid Buttar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashid_Buttar
Fake doctor who's been spreading false information for profit for years.
- writtenAnd had a guy pretending to be an "anonymous doctor" OMG how friggin' dishonest.
I'm sorry but this gets me worked up I'm not trying to be mean here but I'm at my wits end with people taking facts about COVID out of context and spreading false information. "Sunlight kills it" IF THAT WERE TRUE HOW THE HECK WOULD IT SPREAD. HAVE YOU SEEN THE PLANET EARTH? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NOTICED BUT SUNLIGHT IS EVERYWHERE.
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